"I don't think that's the only purpose," Setsuna admits. "But I definitely think the torture, and some of the stuff that happens? It's definitely not helping us. And does, yeah, make some people worse."

As for the way out....

"There has to be, doesn't there? I mean, we get in here a different way. I just have no idea how that is, or how we get to the location of where we come in from." But Conrad's probably right. Setsuna oversimplifies and gets overly excited, ahead of himself, rushing into situations without all of the facts.