"Draining our souls," Setsuna says that plainly, but then smiles after. He's mostly joking. Mostly.

He frowns right after and reaches to touch Conrad's shoulder. "I'm sorry this place has done that to you. It's rough, and it's harder on some people than others. It's not a good feeling."

Setsuna might be a tiny bit optimistic.

"Yeah. That's what Lucifer says, too. But, I mean, if we got in, we have to be able to get out, right?" Of course, it's not the simple. But there are a lot of details Setsuna doesn't quite get.